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    Support for Dart/Flutter pub.dev package repo

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    • stevedennisS Offline
      stevedennis inedo-engineer
      last edited by

      Thanks @bvandehey_9055 !

      Just a couple questions to help us understand...

      • Do you intend to publish your own, first-party packages?
      • Are there any other third-party package sources, other than pub.dev?
      • Aside from your own packages, what are the main benefits of a private repository for third-party packages?

      The recommended private server (https://pub.dev/packages/pub_server) seems to be discontinued and no longer maintained. Are there any other private package server on the market?

      This will help us come up with how to evaluate this!

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        harald.somnes.hanssen_2204
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        We have the same need for an internal Flutter repository.

        The reasons are

        • We have an internal proxy - which means the build servers has to be configured with proxy settings. With an internal repository we avoid it
        • Better grasp of which packages are deemed insecure
        • Pulling packages directly from the web without any sort of evaluation is not ideal securitywise.
        • Even if OSS Index does not support Flutter packages today, it might be come a thing in the future.
        • Caching packages elevate traffic to providers.
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        • bvandehey_9055B Offline
          bvandehey_9055 @stevedennis
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          @stevedennis Our use case is for first-party, proprietary packages developed by Alkami and it's customers/partners with the ability to share those packages with others. I'm not aware of any source other than pub.dev but I'm sure there are companies running their own internal instance of the pub.dev site (we are). The benefit of a private repository is limiting who has access to our proprietary packages which includes all of the source code which is included in the package since Flutter doesn't support binary libraries.

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          • stevedennisS Offline
            stevedennis inedo-engineer
            last edited by

            Thanks @bvandehey_9055 and @harald-somnes-hanssen_2204 !

            It's likely not something we can consider in the next quarter (q2) or so, but we can reinvestigate our roadmap as we approach Q3.

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              harald.somnes.hanssen_2204
              last edited by

              What does the roadmap look like now?

              Seems like flutter is gaining more traction and is the preferred way to create mobile applications quickly.

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                harald.somnes.hanssen_2204 @harald.somnes.hanssen_2204
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                After recent events in the NPM community regarding ua-parser-js, makes me concerned having unmonitored package sources in our enviroment. Doesn't seem like there are package repositories available for flutter quite yet, that mitigates that concern.

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                • apxltdA Offline
                  apxltd inedo-engineer
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                  I'm afraid it didn't make the roadmap for Q4. There's no documented API that we saw, and reverse engineering and then supporting the inevitable quirks takes a lot of effort -- and there still doesn't seem to be a market opportunity for us here I'm afraid (no search volume, etc.)...

                  This SO Question seems to indicate that using Git repositories is a popular way to reference packages...

                  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54143695/how-to-use-my-dart-packages-private-and-not-show-on-pub-dart-lang#54143758

                  Founder and CEO, Inedo

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                  • jensen.chappell_6168J Offline
                    jensen.chappell_6168
                    last edited by

                    It seems that api documentation on this format is available.
                    https://dart.dev/tools/pub/custom-package-repositories#getting-a-custom-package-repository
                    https://github.com/dart-lang/pub/blob/master/doc/repository-spec-v2.md

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                      proget+markus.koban_7308
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                      We would love to see this implemented in the Future, is there any Chance for this?

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                      • apxltdA Offline
                        apxltd inedo-engineer @proget+markus.koban_7308
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                        @proget-markus-koban_7308 over the past few years, a lot of the "chatter" I've seen on social/news over the past couple years seems to have trended negatively towards Dart/Flutter as a platform/technology - and I haven't seen growth. It seems pretty niche still?

                        And then just last week or so, I saw headlines about Google laying off the Dart/Flutter team.

                        What do you think of the future of the platform?

                        Founder and CEO, Inedo

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                        • fabian.droege_8705F Offline
                          fabian.droege_8705 @apxltd
                          last edited by

                          @apxltd When it comes to to Mobile and Web development, Dart/Flutter is pretty massive (see here and here) and has is not going to fade.
                          When it comes to the current layoffs @ Google (discussed for example here), people from the Flutter team itself are actually pretty clear that Flutter is come to stay (" You're betting on Flutter and Dart. So am I. So is Google.").

                          Of course, for small(-ish) teams, using MonoRepos (e.g. w/ melos) or packages via Git is perfectly fine. For larger enterprise use, custom Dart/Flutter repositories are essential. Internally, we're currently exploring the existing possibilities for custom Pub repos (the same company as @proget-markus-koban_7308), but they are not really satisfactory from what I heard. Integration into ProGet would be a game changer here. :)

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                          • apxltdA Offline
                            apxltd inedo-engineer
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                            @fabian-droege_8705 thanks for the insight! I know basically nothing about the platform, so good to hear from someone familiar w/ the ecosystem.

                            We'll take another look in the coming weeks, and I'll post an update once we have a better idea of roadmap. Just skimming the thread here, it seems that there is a package/archive format, an API, and documentation for private repositories - so that's a huge positive

                            Founder and CEO, Inedo

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                            • fabian.droege_8705F Offline
                              fabian.droege_8705 @apxltd
                              last edited by

                              @apxltd Awesome, thanks a ton! We're really looking forward to hearing news on the matter. 🍿

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                              • aaron.bryson_0311A Offline
                                aaron.bryson_0311
                                last edited by

                                Hello,

                                We are seeking support for the Dart/Flutter as well. It would be amazing if y'all supported this. Your competitors sure don't!

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                                • apxltdA Offline
                                  apxltd inedo-engineer @aaron.bryson_0311
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi everyone,

                                  Quick sneak peak of the work-in-progress:

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                                  Cheers,
                                  Alex

                                  Founder and CEO, Inedo

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                                  • apxltdA Offline
                                    apxltd inedo-engineer @apxltd
                                    last edited by

                                    Good news everyone, ProGet 2024.11 now has support for pub (Dart/Flutter) feeds! I'm going to lock this topic now, but if you run into any issues please start a new topic

                                    cc/ @aaron-bryson_0311 @fabian-droege_8705 @proget-markus-koban_7308 @jensen-chappell_6168 @harald-somnes-hanssen_2204 @bvandehey_9055

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